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AIME 1984 — Problem 5

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Problem

Determine the value of abab if log8a+log4b2=5\log_8a+\log_4b^2=5 and log8b+log4a2=7\log_8b+\log_4a^2=7.

解析

Solution 1

Use the change of base formula to see that logalog8+2logblog4=5\frac{\log a}{\log 8} + \frac{2 \log b}{\log 4} = 5; combine denominators to find that logab33log2=5\frac{\log ab^3}{3\log 2} = 5. Doing the same thing with the second equation yields that loga3b3log2=7\frac{\log a^3b}{3\log 2} = 7. This means that logab3=15log2ab3=215\log ab^3 = 15\log 2 \Longrightarrow ab^3 = 2^{15} and that loga3b=21log2a3b=221\log a^3 b = 21\log 2 \Longrightarrow a^3 b = 2^{21}. If we multiply the two equations together, we get that a4b4=236a^4b^4 = 2^{36}, so taking the fourth root of that, ab=29=512ab = 2^9 = \boxed{512}.

Solution 2

We can simplify our expressions by changing everything to a common base and by pulling exponents out of the logarithms. The given equations then become lnaln8+2lnbln4=5\frac{\ln a}{\ln 8} + \frac{2 \ln b}{\ln 4} = 5 and lnbln8+2lnaln4=7\frac{\ln b}{\ln 8} + \frac{2 \ln a}{\ln 4} = 7. Adding the equations and factoring, we get (1ln8+2ln4)(lna+lnb)=12(\frac{1}{\ln 8}+\frac{2}{\ln 4})(\ln a+ \ln b)=12. Rearranging we see that lnab=121ln8+2ln4\ln ab = \frac{12}{\frac{1}{\ln 8}+\frac{2}{\ln 4}}. Again, we pull exponents out of our logarithms to get lnab=1213ln2+22ln2=12ln213+1=12ln243=9ln2\ln ab = \frac{12}{\frac{1}{3 \ln 2} + \frac{2}{2 \ln 2}} = \frac{12 \ln 2}{\frac{1}{3} + 1} = \frac{12 \ln 2}{\frac{4}{3}} = 9 \ln 2. This means that lnabln2=9\frac{\ln ab}{\ln 2} = 9. The left-hand side can be interpreted as a base-2 logarithm, giving us ab=29=512ab = 2^9 = \boxed{512}.

Solution 3

This solution is very similar to the above two, but it utilizes the well-known fact that logmknk=logmn.\log_{m^k}{n^k}= \log_m{n}. Thus, log8a+log4b2=5log23(a3)3+log22b2=5log2a3+log2b=5log2a3b=5.\log_8a+\log_4b^2=5 \Rightarrow \log_{2^3}{(\sqrt[3]{a})^3} + \log_{2^2}{b^2} = 5 \Rightarrow \log_2{\sqrt[3]{a}} + \log_2{b} = 5 \Rightarrow \log_2{\sqrt[3]{a}b} = 5. Similarly, log8b+log4a2=7log2b3a=7.\log_8b+\log_4a^2=7 \Rightarrow \log_2{\sqrt[3]{b}a} = 7. Adding these two equations, we have log2a43b43=12ab=212×34=29=512\log_2{a^{\frac{4}{3}}b^{\frac{4}{3}}} = 12 \Rightarrow ab = 2^{12\times\frac{3}{4}} = 2^9 = \boxed{512}.

Solution 4

We can change everything to a common base, like so: log8a+log8b3=5,\log_8{a} + \log_8{b^3} = 5, log8b+log8a3=7.\log_8{b} + \log_8{a^3} = 7. We set the value of log8a\log_8{a} to xx, and the value of log8b\log_8{b} to y.y. Now we have a system of linear equations:

x+3y=5,x + 3y = 5, y+3x=7.y + 3x = 7. Now add the two equations together then simplify, we'll get x+y=3x+y=3. So log8ab=log8a+log8b=3\log_8{ab} = \log_8{a} + \log_8{b} = 3, ab=83=512ab = 8^3 = \boxed{512}

Solution 5

Add the two equations to get log8a+log8b+loga2+logb2=12\log_8 {a}+ \log_8 {b}+ \log_{a^2}+\log_{b^2}=12. This can be simplified with the log property lognx+logny=lognxy\log_n {x}+\log_n {y}=log_n {xy}. Using this, we get log8ab+log4a2b2=12\log_8 {ab}+ \log_4 {a^2b^2}=12. Now let log8ab=c\log_8 {ab}=c and log4a2b2=k\log_4 {a^2b^2}=k. Converting to exponents, we get 8c=ab8^c=ab and 4k=(ab)24^k=(ab)^2. Sub in the 8c8^c to get k=3ck=3c. So now we have that k+c=12k+c=12 and k=3ck=3c which gives c=3c=3, k=9k=9. This means log4a2b2=9\log_4 {a^2b^2}=9 so 49=(ab)2    ab=(22)9    29    5124^9=(ab)^2 \implies ab=(2^2)^9 \implies 2^9 \implies \boxed {512}

Solution 6

Add the equations and use the facts that loga+logb=logab\log{a} +\log{b}=\log{ab} and logkn=nlogk\log{k^n} =n\log{k} to get

log8ab+2log4ab=12\log_8{ab} +2\log_4{ab}=12 Now use the change of base identity with base as 2:

log2ablog28+2log2ablog24=12\dfrac{\log_2{ab}}{\log_2{8}}+\dfrac{2\log_2{ab}}{\log_2{4}}=12 Which gives:

43log2ab=12\frac{4}{3}\log_2{ab}=12 Solving gives, ab=29=512\boxed{ab=2^9=512}

Solution 7

By properties of logarithms, we know that log8a+log4b2=log2a1/3+log2b=5\log_8 {a}+ \log_4 {b ^ 2} = \log_2 {a ^ {1/3}}+ \log_2 {b} = 5.

Using the fact that logab+logac=logabc\log_a {b} + \log_a {c} = log_a{b*c}, we get log2a1/3b=5\log_2 {a^{1/3} * b} = 5.

Similarly, we know that log2ab1/3=7\log_2 {a * b^{1/3}} = 7.

From these two equations, we get a1/3b=25a^{1/3} * b = 2^5 and ab1/3=27a * b^{1/3} = 2^7.

Multiply the two equations to get a4/3b4/3=212a^{4/3} * b^{4/3} = 2^{12}. Solving, we get that ab=2123/4=29=a*b = 2^{12*3/4} = 2^9 =512\boxed{512}.

Solution 8

Adding both of the equations, we get

log8ab+2log4ab=12\log_8{ab} +2\log_4{ab}=12 Furthermore, we see that log4ab\log_4 {ab} is 32\frac{3}{2} times log8ab.\log_8 {ab}. Substituting log8ab\log_8 {ab} as x,x, we get x+3x=12,x+3x=12, so x=3.x=3. Therefore, we have log8ab=3,\log_8 {ab} = 3, so ab=83=512ab= 8^3=\boxed{512} ~ math_comb01

Solution 9

Change all equations to base 64. We then get:

log64(a2)+log64(b6)=5\log_{64}(a^2) + \log_{64}(b^6) = 5 and

log64(b2)+log64(a6)=7.\log_{64}(b^2) + \log_{64}(a^6) = 7. Using the property log(a)+log(b)=log(ab)\log(a) + \log(b) = \log(ab), we get:

log64(a2b6)=5\log_{64}(a^2b^6) = 5 and

log64(a6b2)=7.\log_{64}(a^6b^2) = 7. Then:

a2b6=645a^2b^6 = 64^5 and

a6b2=647.a^6b^2 = 64^7. Simplifying, we have:

ab3=85ab^3 = 8^5 and

a3b=87.a^3b = 8^7. Substituting and solving, we get:

a=82a = 8^2 and

b=8.b = 8. Then:

ab=83=512.ab = 8^3 = 512.

Solution 10

Given: - log8a+log4b2=5\log_8 a + \log_4 b^2 = 5 - log8b+log4a2=7\log_8 b + \log_4 a^2 = 7

We set up a system by subtracting 2 from the second equation to make both equal to 5: - log8a+log4b2=5\log_8 a + \log_4 b^2 = 5 - log8b+log4a22=5\log_8 b + \log_4 a^2 - 2 = 5

Setting these equal: log8a+log4b2=log8b+log4a22\log_8 a + \log_4 b^2 = \log_8 b + \log_4 a^2 - 2

Using the property log4x2=2log4x\log_4 x^2 = 2\log_4 x: log8a+2log4b=log8b+2log4a2\log_8 a + 2\log_4 b = \log_8 b + 2\log_4 a - 2

Converting to base 2, where log8x=log2x3\log_8 x = \frac{\log_2 x}{3} and log4x=log2x2\log_4 x = \frac{\log_2 x}{2}: log2a3+2log2b2=log2b3+2log2a22\frac{\log_2 a}{3} + 2\cdot\frac{\log_2 b}{2} = \frac{\log_2 b}{3} + 2\cdot\frac{\log_2 a}{2} - 2

Simplifying: log2a3+log2b=log2b3+log2a2\frac{\log_2 a}{3} + \log_2 b = \frac{\log_2 b}{3} + \log_2 a - 2

Multiplying through by 6 to eliminate fractions: 2log2a+6log2b=2log2b+6log2a122\log_2 a + 6\log_2 b = 2\log_2 b + 6\log_2 a - 12

Rearranging: 2log2a6log2a+6log2b2log2b=122\log_2 a - 6\log_2 a + 6\log_2 b - 2\log_2 b = -12 4log2a+4log2b=12-4\log_2 a + 4\log_2 b = -12 log2blog2a=3\log_2 b - \log_2 a = -3

Therefore: log2(ba)=3\log_2\left(\frac{b}{a}\right) = -3 ba=18\frac{b}{a} = \frac{1}{8} b=a8b = \frac{a}{8}

From the first original equation: log8a+log4b2=5\log_8 a + \log_4 b^2 = 5

Substituting b=a8b = \frac{a}{8}: log8a+log4(a8)2=5\log_8 a + \log_4 \left(\frac{a}{8}\right)^2 = 5 log8a+log4(a264)=5\log_8 a + \log_4 \left(\frac{a^2}{64}\right) = 5 log8a+log4a2log464=5\log_8 a + \log_4 a^2 - \log_4 64 = 5

Since log464=log443=3\log_4 64 = \log_4 4^3 = 3: log8a+log4a23=5\log_8 a + \log_4 a^2 - 3 = 5 log8a+log4a2=8\log_8 a + \log_4 a^2 = 8

Now we have: - log8a+log4a2=8\log_8 a + \log_4 a^2 = 8 (derived) - log8b+log4a2=7\log_8 b + \log_4 a^2 = 7 (given)

Subtracting: log8alog8b=1\log_8 a - \log_8 b = 1 log8(ab)=1\log_8\left(\frac{a}{b}\right) = 1 ab=8\frac{a}{b} = 8

This confirms our earlier finding that b=a8b = \frac{a}{8}, so a=8ba = 8b.

Substituting this back into the first original equation: log8(8b)+log4b2=5\log_8 (8b) + \log_4 b^2 = 5 log88+log8b+log4b2=5\log_8 8 + \log_8 b + \log_4 b^2 = 5 1+log8b+log4b2=51 + \log_8 b + \log_4 b^2 = 5 log8b+log4b2=4\log_8 b + \log_4 b^2 = 4

From the second original equation: log8b+log4(8b)2=7\log_8 b + \log_4 (8b)^2 = 7 log8b+log4(64b2)=7\log_8 b + \log_4 (64b^2) = 7 log8b+log464+log4b2=7\log_8 b + \log_4 64 + \log_4 b^2 = 7 log8b+3+log4b2=7\log_8 b + 3 + \log_4 b^2 = 7 log8b+log4b2=4\log_8 b + \log_4 b^2 = 4

Thus both equations yield the same constraint: log8b+log4b2=4\log_8 b + \log_4 b^2 = 4

Converting to base 2: log2b3+2log2b2=4\frac{\log_2 b}{3} + \frac{2\log_2 b}{2} = 4 log2b3+log2b=4\frac{\log_2 b}{3} + \log_2 b = 4 log2b+3log2b3=4\frac{\log_2 b + 3\log_2 b}{3} = 4 4log2b3=4\frac{4\log_2 b}{3} = 4 log2b=3\log_2 b = 3

Therefore: b=23=8b = 2^3 = 8 a=8b=88=64a = 8b = 8 \cdot 8 = 64 ab=648=512ab = 64 \cdot 8 = 512

The value of abab is 512\boxed{512}.

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Solution 11

Let us convert everything from the first equation to log base-2. We get log2a3+log2b22=5\frac{\log_2{a}}{3} + \frac{\log_2{b^2}}{2} = 5. Multiplying by 66, we get 2log2a+3log2b2=302\log_2{a} + 3\log_2{b^2} = 30. By the properties of logarithms, log2a2b6=30\log_2{a^2b^6} = 30, so a2b6=230a^2b^6 = 2^{30}. We can use the exact same process for the next equation. We have log2b2a6=42\log_2{b^2a^6} = 42, so a6b2=242a^6b^2 = 2^{42}. We can now multiply our two equations of products of powers of aa and bb to get a8b8=242230=272a^8b^8 = 2^{42} \cdot 2^{30} = 2^{72}. Taking the 88-th root of both sides, we get ab=2728=29=512ab = 2^{\frac{72}{8}} = 2^9 = \boxed{512}

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